Wednesday, February 4, 2009

Leaving India or not ??

I was reading Times of India today and accidentally , I read an article on 'Slumdog Millionaire'. The reason why I got interested in writing this blog actually is not that I want to review the movie, or comment on that article. The author(Arundhati Roy, I guess) was actually commenting on poverty and trying to make a point saying that the film did not show "real" poverty, and the film has used poverty as a prop to move it's step toward Oscar. That's the point I really do not agree with, First of all Oscar is not some kind of noble prize that must be given only to films showing real issues and film might have other aspects like cinematography and picturaisation linked with it too.What was even more interesting in that article was that the author is in new york and she is writing that she is really 'sad' that India is portrayed that way and does some big talks about poverty.I found her really very angry that why the director did not show the real poverty. Well it actually gives an impression as if author has really experienced poverty ( which I personally doubt that she had).(Edit: I also realized that people might even started comparting this feeling of "emphathy" shown by the author to Mother Teresa, this is the extent to which our feelings can be manipulated). Some days back , when I was commenting on Indian system (Well my car got stolen, I can atleast show my anger to a little extent ) one of my friend asked me ' Why you always say you want to leave India and why not fighting the system??' , personally this standard template blows my head off ( no offense dear), BECAUSE I am really fed up of listening to this bull shit patriotic crap that comes from a movie made by some "GREAT" director.("GADAR", for instance, where Sunny Deol "fights" the system, the way people like everybody to fight. He pulls out a handpump and "singlehandedly" and fight the policemen in pakistan, This way he shows the "love" for his country). I wish I was Sunny Deol in real life :D. Then I surely would have fought the system in a way of "BRAVES" and not like coward by providing solution I am just goin to provide.

More or less everyone in our country is influenced by that line. People somehow gets the impression automatically that I am keen to leave India, without even thinking and there are problems in foreign that I am overlooking. Every body including my roommates ( till yesterday) thought the same thing, untill we wasted 3 days discussing why I came to the conclusion. My question to the people using that standard template just like our honourable author above is ...

'Have you ever really thought what "something" needs to be done???"( In authors case - " Did you ever even wasted that much effort thinking what can be done for the poors in India, instead of criticizing a movie that might have nominated to Oscar, purely for good theme and picturization??) Here are my thought and My solution (though people may not agree to that, but if you do not then kindly post some 3rd solution)

Once again starts with an analogy... Suppose there is a wolf and a child , wolf bit child. What should the child do ??

1) Hit the wolf back and get devoured by the wolf or

2) Leave that place ( at least try) and then come back when he is strong enough to fight with the wolf ( Not for the sake of revenge but for the sake of other child that might get bitten by the wolf).

But what if there are thousands of wolves in that jungle all waiting for the prey ????? Is it advisable to come ???

1)In that case.If you really want 'Something to happen' try working on the pups who are still amenable.

2) and finally If you can't do anything then sit on a cozy couch in New York, and dont' talk about poverty, because people might confuse you with Mother Teresa or Gandhi ji. Or worse the great thinker and philospher Swami Vivekananda. When I think your thought are not even close to Mother Teresa's thougths leave apart Gandhi ji and Swami Vivekanada.

(I am sure no one will do that too but I guess I will make my point). Though i would really like to hear some third way out :)

(P.S - A quote for the author who bashed 'Slumdog Millionaire', although applicable to me also "You can talk the talk , but can you walk the walk ?" )

28 comments:

  1. buddy why did u include us "roommates? we never used standard template to u.
    besides "walk the talk" rather than walk the walk (dont take this seriously)

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  2. ab sun ....
    mera 1 funda hai which i learned from my small experience...." FORGIVE BUT DONT FORGET "...
    life is not about just 1 thin so keepin 1 factor in mind u cant take a decision too..
    abt the wolf thin if boy has a purpose to live he shud run away but if his life is aimless he shud fight n save others from the same situation in future...even the fear of 1 person risin against the system will some how make a diff but jst runnin away showin ur back is waste of a life.....

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  3. Well No offense but I know my life worth a million than wasting on some people who wont' care after I die if I die fighting with system.
    How many of you actually remember Mr dubey ( A civil engineer from IIT) who was murdred when he wrote to prime minister about how people are taking bribes and not doing their work.
    History is to take lessons and learn not to FORGET

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  4. shayad i wrote sumthin similar ki forgive n move on but dont forget and become careless again for the same thin to happen yet again....

    be aware u r still sorrounded by the sharks though the ocean may b different...

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  5. I dont' consider running from a storm is actually showing your back but I consider it intelligence. It is just a matter of difference in opinions and I dont' know whether my thought or your thoughts , but one of ours is really influenced from hindi movies

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  6. tanmay I fail to understand certain things Firstly what grudge do u have with hindi movies. they take so much pain to make a movie to entertain people and to send some message in the process.Secondly why are u making a generalisation that almost every person is influenced by Hindi movie
    Thirdly if there is there is some positive influence on people which lead them to take some positive action whats the harm. I was discussing with Guneet what positive influence
    RDB on several cases such as Jessica Lal case,etc .though it didnt change the system overnight yet it was a positive step in the right direction.But it surely doesnt meant that I am against people going abroad.on the contrary i feel that a person going abroad can also contribute to India as much as a person who live in India provided he has the right attitude and sincerity.

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  7. Love people and not country, religion or caste.
    I like good people in every country. Do good to yourself and others.
    We all have both ram and ravan within ourself see the ram in others and ravan in yourself. The idea of leaving one country is highly individual.
    There is no point in debate i dont want to leave my country bcoz my parents are here or maybe bcoz i like the food here :). But there maybe someone who is willing to go bcoz he wants better education or is willing to do reseach or rech new heights in his career.
    The problem is that all of us know this.
    When somebody tells that he will be leaving india bcoz the system here is corrupt there are friends who will tell him that u shud stay and do something good here instead bcoz they dont want him to leave them and not the country and the person trying to leave the country wants to prove that he would never leave them but its because of the system in the country. He wants that the friends say to him its the right decision bcoz they mean a lot to him.
    Its all about people.

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  8. @ Rakesh
    1) I fail to Understand how did YOU generalised that i was having grudge with "ALL" the hindi movies
    2) We all are somewhere inspired from the things around us. Hindi films are no exception. We are Indians so obviously in our childhood or adulthood we are somewhat influenced from hindi movies
    3) I suggest you read this also
    http://www.anothersubcontinent.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2542
    WHEN ON THE EARTH DID I SAY ANYWHERE THAT THERE IS "HARM"
    cmon gimme a break!!!!!!!
    These statements made me realised how less are world to describe your self and how even SIMPLE english can cause people wondering "Does it means this or that ??"
    Anyways this was just a comment on what I think and i guess you people are really close to me. I would like to save my toil in writing commments on the person who do not know me . We people can discuss it at lenght face to face. :)
    @PS
    Well said prem
    but it was really not about ram and ravana
    I just want to add one line
    "KAYAM NIJA , PROVETI ??
    IYAM GANANA TU LAGHU CHETANAM
    UDAR CHARITANA TU VASUDHAIV KATUMBAKAM"
    ( WHATS YOUR AND WHAT SOMEONE ELSES
    THIS TYPE OF CALCULATION IS FOR PEOPLE WITH LOW INTELLECT, THE PEOPLE WITH GOOD EDUCATION AND BROADER SPECTURUM HAVE THIS EARTH AS WORLD"
    I am sure you can find some place where you can have good food plus you can live with your own people
    it can be india too no doubt :)

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  9. Well I have realized one thing that the point is missed and my writing this blog seems irrelevant at this point.
    I just made a joke out of it (Man I should have been in entertainment industry :P (P.S yeh bhi joke tha no sarcastic comment on this one please) )
    MY Blog's gist : I love india, Two ways to help it grow.
    First comment : how did you forgot Indians?? besides India has a capital i in it
    Second comment : What the hell I love India you shut up
    Next comment : I agree with you that this plate has poisoned food but how are you so sure that next plate wont' have poison ??
    (what the hell this does not mean you eat the first plate and die?? :O )
    Rakesh's comment : Hmm.. ok you love India, but how dare you said something about 'aloo ka parantha'???
    Prem said : Hmm.. Earth is round and good food is appreciated by all.
    (Ya right, these are universal truths buddy Even George Bush agrees with them :D )
    Guys kindly don't miss the point. I was discussing how to make India better. Don't pass comments about "GLORIOUS" ways of living life.

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  10. man changa to kathauti mein ganga :)

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  12. "Well it actually gives an imression as if author has really experienced poverty ( which I personally doubt that she had)."
    Well.. Have you really experienced poverty??

    The feeling of empathy sees no boundaries. I can relate to the movie as much as you guys or the female who wrote for the newspaper could.
    But saying that people outside India could/should not tell what true india is, would be totally wrong.
    Rather I would say they are the better ones to tell as they have seen not just India but the world abroad as well.

    Poverty, Corruption and the long list of evils in India might make you all think that it is worth to go out, "become strong" and then "hit back the wolf" if you are strong enough.
    But what I would say is.. Things like this exist everywhere. And i can say that because i have seen that. So making your judgment on just one reason.. would be wrong.
    As they say, "The grass always seems to be greener on the other side of the fence"!!
    What makes you think life outside India is not a pain?? Have you witnessed it???

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  13. @Kaku
    No I have not seen poverty for the record, and I am not saying that things might be amazingly different outside India but unless you are really desperate to prove me wrong, I hope you would agree that things are better than in India in many places.
    Sometimes grass might be green because it was kept green by the gardener. I have not witnessed it but does it means that it is not worth a shot.
    Opinions are based on Experiences are based on facts I believe that history and other people can also contribute to your experiences. I have not seen life outside India but someone really close to me has and I believe in him as much as I believe in God and books.
    Again, my point was that people should not talk about poverty if they have not experienced it, I really don't know from where anyone got the experience that I myself am talking about poverty. Kindly quote any line in the main blog to support your feeling so that I can change it and make it more polite.
    Second thing again as a human we can at-least try to find some better place.
    I personally find that particular argument "Things like this exist everywhere. And i can say that because i have seen that" is like saying the same thing i explained earlier in my somewhat humorous comment.(ref- poison and food)
    Let me Once and for the last time clarify my post
    1) No one should make such comments on poverty and things. Chill i guess neither I nor most of the people can do much about it
    2) If you really want to do something do some creative thing
    3) If you cant do something creative dont' mourn and follow "Out of sight out of mind" quote coz anyways out side India you have a excuse that we are foreigner.
    WHAT EXCUSE DO WE HAVE WHILE LIVING IN HERE AND BEING HARASSED BY OUR PEOPLE ONLY???

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  14. Y would I be desperate to prove you right or wrong?I hardly know you!!
    I thought the reason for the blogs, n not just this one of yours, just all the blogs.. in general is.. to present your opinion and receive others' opinion.
    If you are not open to receiving ideas, I would not waste my effort to write/ reply after this one response.


    I did not say that you have seen poverty, but does that mean that you should actually be poor to see what poverty is?
    All i meant was, it is wrong on ur part to judge the comments/opinion of the writer of the paper. If she has not seen poverty neither have you, to comment that only some1 who has actually witnessed poverty should talk about poverty. Mother Teresa was not poor or suffered herself but still she was called the saint of gutter? Why so?
    Coz she had a feeling of empathy.
    You need not be poor or whatever to talk about poverty. The bottom line is FEELINGS and BEING HUMAN!
    That is all i meant when i said that even some1 who is in NY could "Feel" and advocate about the movie.

    Someone close to you has seen life abroad, but that's just one opinion. And you can not reach a conclusion based on just one fact/statement.
    And if your conclusions are based like that, y don't you just take my opinion and agree with it as I am abroad too.. so from this fact and my experience would you now change your opinion?

    I totally disagree that things are better than India. There is no such thing as free food. For everything you get, you have a price to pay.

    And finally on your comment where you clarified your post..
    1) No one should make ... the people can do much about it
    :) Well to every problem there's a solution, I am not that learned to tell what that solution is.
    3)Outside India...foreigner.
    :) When finally in the end, if everything has to come down to finding an excuse.. you can find more than one excuse to bear with all that India is.
    a) ur family, friends, social circle
    b)all that you are, n u have today is cz of India.
    c)culture, tradition, value
    d) last but the most important.. not being treated as a SECOND CITIZEN!

    Just imaging how happy you would be..
    if you lost everything you have today.. just to find it back again!
    We often realize the worth of things we have/had, when we lose them.

    Probably, you'd understand my point some day.

    Cheers!!

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  15. If you don't know me that well then I am sure your comments are fine because I was (somewhat sill am but a lesser extent) getting a feeling that you know me very well and that's why your thoughts are typecasted about me. 1st of all let me clarify one thing, this post was not completed when I started getting comments on it :)
    As you can see this post has a lot of grammatical errors, plus I have realized while answering everyone that what i meant to say is not at all clear by this post
    I totally understand your point and I am not at all looking for a "paradise city"
    But I really wont' agree/understand your point unless you give me your examples
    Let me give you examples of some of the forgotten heroes in India
    1) Mr Satyendra Dubey
    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyendra_Dubey)
    2) Shanmughan Manjunath
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmughan_Manjunath)

    In-fact I would really like to know exactly where are you living and if this ever happened to you personally that you went to the police station of the state ???
    Have you ever gone to the police station of any Indian city ??
    If yes and you share some different opinion and experiences I would love to share that.
    I am again not generalizing but I can safely assume from my facts that 90 percent of time you will really feel harassed more by the policemen of our country. I was being asked to write complain in Hindi, I am good in hindi so it did not bothered me but what if the same happened with some south Indian guy ??
    I really would like to know more about your thought
    Here are some more thought about 'Same things'
    (http://blog.aditto.info/2006/07/12/102-what-a-shame-is-it-indias-worst-or-best-upcoming-asset/)
    Its totally right that Its all about FEEL and BEING HUMAN but those who feel won't have time to comment on slumdog.
    Freedom of speech is everyone's right
    but I was expecting that a film reviewer will give reviews according to the picturisation and cinematography. and a Humanitarian would write about the real issues and may be even without writing will go back to his/her work.
    In fact sometimes back I would have done the same thing, but somehow I have decided to express my feelings in a low platform although.
    How many countries have Reservations for top colleges on caste basis.
    If there should be reservation then It should be on basis of buying power not caste.
    How many countries serve you oil mixed with contaminant and milk with urea ???
    (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20071107/ldh1.htm)
    In how many countries vegetables have this kind of pesticides
    (http://www.hindujobs.com/thehindu/mp/2003/07/07/stories/2003070701630100.htm)
    In how many countries rice is mixed with marble ???
    In how many counties young girls of age 7 are beaten brutally by policemen because she was accused of stealing 150 bucks ????
    I don't see why you totally disagree, because agreements and disagreement are based on facts
    I would like to see your facts when I have shown 'some' of mine (The list is so big that if i start writing I have to sit here and miss office)
    I really would like to hear from you because you have taken the discussion to at least a right direction
    (P.S- I saw your profile and it was hidden and you have not written anything before, This implies either you are , somehow known to me or just someone who recently joined blogger.If the later case and you are someone who can talk to me directly then i would prefer talking directly otherwise at least share your experiences so that we all can relate your point with your post)
    I would really like to understand the point provided it help me finding the '3rd' way not showing me flaws in 1st and 2nd way that i proposed
    cheers and regards
    Peace

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  16. And i dont' get it , Why should I agree with your experience when I am not sure that you are really in abroad, because your profile in hidden . I am not impressed by some random people and random thoughts it takes a lot of effort to impress me at least.
    Show me some facts
    The person about whom i was talking gave me hell lot of facts
    He never started with "I think and I believe" kind of lines experiences are based on facts
    collected by you or someone else
    show me your facts
    :)

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  17. I have reply to all ur questions, and i would not mind replying u back but before i do that, there are few things that i would like to know from you.
    As you said, you need me to give examples.. and i already gave that to you, mother Teresa and regarding feeling of empathy.. so do u atleast agree with me, that the female who wrote about her opinion was justified in doing so?
    And that she might have just felt it, i mean she is a human being and ur claim that she might have never seen poverty to make such a statement is totally wrong?

    And the reason what is holding me back from replying to your post is ur remark, "but unless you are really desperate to prove me wrong,"..

    Any further statement here would just make things worse..
    SILENCE IS GOLDEN!! atleast for a while in this case..

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  18. I was not at all against the people who are living in abroad and having feeling of empathy. I have made a mistake though, that I have not written if she was exactly having the feeling of empathy or not. She had written that movie did not show actual poverty and it is en-cashing poverty. This was the point I was disagreeing with, because I have felt that most of times whenever some movie, especially Indian makes it to Oscar or any foreign award function, some "great" journalist would come and comment, "Movie did not show the "real" India" Same thing happened with "Lagan" .(Again we only seek foreigners endorsement so badly that Oscar is bigger thing than any "Indian" award) This was my point in the blog for quoting slumdog millionaire.
    Now I initially thought I will too follow that golden rule of silence but I guess I have no choice.
    Even Mother Teresa has got some controversies associated with her life. So, whatever you said to me at first that even foreign has some bad things, even she had some. I won't completely agree with you BECAUSE even I have got facts and wont' mind positing them here too. But what's the point you never posted any fact. Saying that empathy was fact, great even sun rises from east is fact.
    Still I am not convinced because sadly , I have not seen any facts in your comment again
    (Don't worry about things getting worse we both have a tool called delete post in our arsenal :D )
    If I get more emotional than you can stop posting and if you will I can ban comments on it :) . We both can stop the topic then and there as I have the power to delete comments with me and you have the power to snatch a contributor from my post.
    Not much are on stake :)

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  20. Well, i appreciate that you are willing to talk about the topic n that we can delete the posts when it seems to be going to a point when it becomes, hard to take.. still what i asked remained unanswered..
    1) desperate should not have been ur word. as it was just a discussion.
    2)I fail to understand ur stand on the reporter..what exactly do u mean..
    earlier u said, "What was interesting in that article was that the author is in new york and she is writing that she is really 'sad' that India is portraited that way and some big talks about poverty is used as an issue when they are not showing the 'real' poverity. Well it actually gives an imression as if author has really experienced poverty ( which I personally doubt that she had)"
    and then..u said, "Again, my point was that people should not talk about poverty if they have not experienced it,"
    n now u r saying, "I was not at all against the people who are living in abroad and having feeling of empathy. I have made a mistake though that I have not written exactly that she was having the feeling of empathy"

    What exactly is your opinion. She was right or wrong. Actually in ur blog u have bashed her.

    Buddy, Words are mightier than a sword.
    Silence is golden.. but words when spoken and hearts when broken can never be repaired!

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  21. Well, for people living abroad, its a very convenient way to show their concern by empathizing with the poor fellow countrymen. The ones who really care don't just flee when their country needs them. What kind of a child is he who leaves his crippled mother in pain and "empathizes". It saddens my heart to read all this. NONE BUT THE POOR KNOWS HIS PAIN. Others just feel it but they don't have to experience it. For some people who now may be willing to write "what the heck this guy knows about poverty", I should tell you all that i belong to a once very poor family of farmers in Bihar. And the lady who wrote this article that we all are talking about belongs to a nice financially well off family in Kerala. Everyday after spending a whole day with poor people "empathizing" she returns to a comfortable home with a cozy bed to sleep while zillions are spending sleepless nights on footpath in winters with just 1 torn blanket. What can she possibly know about POOR & POVERTY? HuH?
    Don't talk about mother Teresa as her's was a case totally different. She actually left all she had and devoted her life totally to serve others.

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  22. My first comment shows sarcasm and I still stick to that , she should not talk about "real" poverty as if she has lived it.
    My second post Just said this again
    My 3rd comment which you quoted actually meant i don't really care if you emphasize or not but even then no point commenting about some movie that made it to oscar no matter relevant or not.
    and writing it with such passion as if you have really thought of some solution to poverty.
    same thing actually happened with you, You actually started defending people abroad and India etc. and just wrote some rosy lines that " There must be some solutions but I am ignorant"
    Well I am ignorant too but still I gave some solution , although they might not be the perfect one but in someways they can solve some problems I believe

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  23. Did you even paid one moment looking into the link provided by me ??
    Are you willing to see my point?? leave some error in English because I was really not ready for this blog to have comments.( 4rth time I am clarifying this )
    If not then desperate to prove me wrong are the right worlds and I feel they were correctly written

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  24. Well, yes i have read the links.. had i not been willing to see ur point, i wud not have been replying to you. Is it not?
    When i do not even know you, how should it matter to me if i prove you wrong or right. What will i gain out of it?

    Going to police station, yes i have been to cops.. in india and here as well..
    was i able to get the work done... yes..
    n if it would be of any use here or not.. but i went to the police station all by myself.. not just here but in india too. Being a girl.. going to police station, is not something that you would so often see in India.
    But proudly i say, i went and the work was done..
    Was it just in one day?
    No, neither here.. nor in India the process was finished in just one day.

    "none but the poor knows his pain" so true! thats y i felt, what people in India see as life abroad is not what you get after going abroad. You missed the point where I elaborated the reasons/ excuses to stay in India.

    Mother Teresa was just an example. All i advocating was to feel for the human beings!
    And openly saying that you feel for people, is there any harm in that?
    And thanks for bringing it to light that the lady who wrote that is from a well off family in Kerala, and she goes off to sleep in a cozy bed! That was not known to me. I do not know what that female is doing to solve the problem..nor m i interested in knowing that.

    Identifying the problem is first step for solving a problem. Atleast she identified it.. atleast you, i and we all feel that there is a problem..
    If u dont see a problem, there is no way that you would be able to solve it!

    You were asking me a solution? And that was no rosy, flowery words.. i mean it..
    I do not know what the solution can be.. but atleast I am not running away from the problem by saying that out of sight would be out of mind.
    Cowards run, strong fight!

    And even if i come up with a solution, i wonder how easy it would be for me to convince people who are so acceptable to my ideas!

    About caste system and food adulteration, about problems of corruption.. i have no answer.
    But i wonder if our freedom fighters had thought, what would it be for them even if they fight against the British rule.. do u think we would have received Independence?

    India is a developing nation and like many other developing nations, its facing some challenges. Just to abhor it because of the problems, is that a solution.. to fly away from the problem is that a solution.

    A simple question, when you love somebody, you accept them the way they are..and then try to bring out the best in them.
    And same holds for India as well. If you love it, accept it.. identify the problems
    and Be the change you want to see!

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  25. For the record I have actually made the changes and now I guess my post is somewhat completed.
    Being a girl you went to police station In India as well as abroad, really you must be a strong girl as well as lucky girl that you got your work done.
    If I really don't know you then Just curious how did you find the link as I don't think it really appears in google search yet. M just curious nothing related to topic.
    Being the change require an effort from your side in first knowing the problem.
    When we say "round"
    it appeals as a sun to a child and ball to another. This problem is not that simple to identify. I am sure we all have different perspective of identifying and forming the problem statement.
    My purpose (one of many) was also to invite thought how you see the problem and not India is good or bad. I know foreign counties will have faults but still I know you were speechless and many points because those are true too.
    I came up with a solution, and it is really difficult to convince even people with whom i can directly talk but again the same thing you said cowards run and brave fight.
    you also gave excuse that people wont' understand my perspective of solution, why urging other to be change, when at some point we all are failing to be the change

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  26. and from some changes even you can see That even I am listening ( right or wrong dont' know ) to you carefully.
    you can see I have changed my blog from what it implied to you and what I mean actually.
    Though still it is really strange you being a girl went to police station in India. and getting work done without any grudges with police.
    Its really unusual to read. I guess people in my contact as well as I was really unlucky.
    Not the first time, this happened. I live in Himachal Pradesh, a teacher near my house has faced the same problem. He is really a cool breeze to talk to and I have seen even him getting disappointed after coming from police station.
    I am really amazed from your experience.
    Let me use some of my time searching good blogs from any indian who has actually experienced police station. You have made me search for good blogs for police at least
    cheers :)

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  27. If i Would have been known to you, you would have recognized me. Isn't it?

    I would say it is a pure coincidence.

    And FYI, as you had said either I was new to blogging or I was someone known. Its none of the two cases.

    I write but that more for just myself types.
    I have had several discussions with friends who have come here and very few agree with 'my thinking'. Reading your blog gave me a feeling you were one of those.. so just could not stop from replying.

    Also, being anonymous solves a lot of problems.. but that's off the topic.Because when you are writing, words speak and not your identity. People are not judgmental then, I feel comfortable in that.

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  28. Yesterday, I was feeling really very proud, My friend Rakesh actually proved my point.
    We were discussing one of our manager, who actually is really very rude to talk and just wont empathise whatever happen. He got call from Banglaore and just gave a commment "In bangalore , we need not see her again, he might find another manager who is just like her but still he was happy.
    why??
    He dont' love Delhi ?? now some people who are delhite will argue bangalore has its own merits..
    why dont' you live in delhi and fight with that manager.
    and lot's of "brave" and "idealistic" things
    then why was he happy ??
    because i guess that was practical thing to do.
    (PS I am enjoying an indian marriage, will share some good and bad experience as soon as i return to delhi. Till then....
    Enjoy what have give to you from life.
    Dont cuss god much...
    and most important do something creative, that might help builiding better india or at least your family, You never know when your younger brother or sister or that kid in your neightbour hood is getting influenced by your deeds )

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